Comments on: The Duggars and the “Full Quiver” Movement http://www.cynicsunlimited.com/2008/06/15/the-duggars-and-the-%e2%80%9cfull-quiver%e2%80%9d-movement/ Dissecting What You Choose to Ignore Fri, 12 Mar 2010 23:21:13 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: Kat http://www.cynicsunlimited.com/2008/06/15/the-duggars-and-the-%e2%80%9cfull-quiver%e2%80%9d-movement/comment-page-4/#comment-42012 Kat Wed, 17 Feb 2010 09:19:14 +0000 http://www.cynicsunlimited.com/?p=454#comment-42012 Ok, all of your discussions on whether the Duggars are racist were just disproved. On a new episode today, they had a family friend and his family to dinner and two of their children were BLACK (adopted from Ethiopia). One of the Duggar kids are shown hugging/wrestling with one of the kids. They even shared the same dinner table. While this doesn't mean they're not prejudiced, it means they're...*gasp* accepting of others "different" from themselves. Also, about taking something you got off Wikipedia seriously really is laugh-out-loud funny. Doesn't anyone know that ANYONE can post ANYTHING on wikipedia. I'm not saying that everything is fabricated on Wikipedia, but seriously, it's a free for all for everyone that wants to post "facts" (more likely opinions). One of my projects for grad school was to write up a informative report on a painting and post it on Wikipedia. I had no problem posting my essay on Wikipedia and no one from Wikipedia has checked my facts or anything (even though I know I got some wrong). Ok, all of your discussions on whether the Duggars are racist were just disproved. On a new episode today, they had a family friend and his family to dinner and two of their children were BLACK (adopted from Ethiopia). One of the Duggar kids are shown hugging/wrestling with one of the kids. They even shared the same dinner table. While this doesn’t mean they’re not prejudiced, it means they’re…*gasp* accepting of others “different” from themselves.

Also, about taking something you got off Wikipedia seriously really is laugh-out-loud funny. Doesn’t anyone know that ANYONE can post ANYTHING on wikipedia. I’m not saying that everything is fabricated on Wikipedia, but seriously, it’s a free for all for everyone that wants to post “facts” (more likely opinions). One of my projects for grad school was to write up a informative report on a painting and post it on Wikipedia. I had no problem posting my essay on Wikipedia and no one from Wikipedia has checked my facts or anything (even though I know I got some wrong).

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Laura

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Kit – Not sure if it is an intentional “hoax” being spread around. I think a lot of people are confusing the life stories of these families, now that so many have popped up on TV due to the popularity of the Duggar family.

]]> By: Kit http://www.cynicsunlimited.com/2008/06/15/the-duggars-and-the-%e2%80%9cfull-quiver%e2%80%9d-movement/comment-page-4/#comment-42005 Kit Fri, 12 Feb 2010 14:17:41 +0000 http://www.cynicsunlimited.com/?p=454#comment-42005 Oh geeez fozziee that old hoax??? Jim is Michelle's first and only husband and she had no children before she married him. This keeps popping up - but the hoaxers can't even be consistent with the name - it's 'Jallah', oh no wait it's 'Jemima' or no wait it's not a J-name at all and THAT'S why they don't love her... Give it a rest. Oh geeez fozziee that old hoax???

Jim is Michelle’s first and only husband and she had no children before she married him.

This keeps popping up – but the hoaxers can’t even be consistent with the name – it’s ‘Jallah’, oh no wait it’s ‘Jemima’ or no wait it’s not a J-name at all and THAT’S why they don’t love her…
Give it a rest.

]]> By: fozziee http://www.cynicsunlimited.com/2008/06/15/the-duggars-and-the-%e2%80%9cfull-quiver%e2%80%9d-movement/comment-page-4/#comment-42004 fozziee Fri, 12 Feb 2010 06:48:32 +0000 http://www.cynicsunlimited.com/?p=454#comment-42004 Many seasons ago (prior to the new house) They had an episode about Michelle's first child Michelle's first child (prior to marrying Jim Bob had a baby (the first grandchild) The child is bi-racial Jim Bob basically stated that the young lady was rebellious and had to leave the house. They never discuss her or acknowledge the grandchild Does anyone know if this is due to the daughters choice or if it is a racial issue Many seasons ago (prior to the new house) They had an episode about Michelle’s first child Michelle’s first child (prior to marrying Jim Bob had a baby (the first grandchild) The child is bi-racial Jim Bob basically stated that the young lady was rebellious and had to leave the house. They never discuss her or acknowledge the grandchild Does anyone know if this is due to the daughters choice or if it is a racial issue

]]> By: Lo http://www.cynicsunlimited.com/2008/06/15/the-duggars-and-the-%e2%80%9cfull-quiver%e2%80%9d-movement/comment-page-4/#comment-41994 Lo Wed, 03 Feb 2010 19:42:37 +0000 http://www.cynicsunlimited.com/?p=454#comment-41994 Why are you all ignoring the fact that there are 19 children here who don't get enough love and attention and just live among one another all the time. Also, burdening older siblings to stand in as parent is selfish. They are siblings not parents. If you can't parent your children, don't be a parent to that many children. I know people who come from large families and totally resent it. Why? Because mom didn't have enough time and love to go around and they were always getting lost in the shuffle of a big brood. As for quoting the Bible, it was written ages ago, in a different time, when different things were happening, know what I'm saying? It applied to an era. I'm so, so wowed by all of this. You know I've heard something like 75% of people in America (have to get the exact figure but it's high) have an IQ under 100, which makes critical thinking all the much harder. Why are you all ignoring the fact that there are 19 children here who don’t get enough love and attention and just live among one another all the time. Also, burdening older siblings to stand in as parent is selfish. They are siblings not parents. If you can’t parent your children, don’t be a parent to that many children. I know people who come from large families and totally resent it. Why? Because mom didn’t have enough time and love to go around and they were always getting lost in the shuffle of a big brood. As for quoting the Bible, it was written ages ago, in a different time, when different things were happening, know what I’m saying? It applied to an era. I’m so, so wowed by all of this. You know I’ve heard something like 75% of people in America (have to get the exact figure but it’s high) have an IQ under 100, which makes critical thinking all the much harder.

]]> By: Emilia Liz http://www.cynicsunlimited.com/2008/06/15/the-duggars-and-the-%e2%80%9cfull-quiver%e2%80%9d-movement/comment-page-4/#comment-41990 Emilia Liz Mon, 01 Feb 2010 17:06:23 +0000 http://www.cynicsunlimited.com/?p=454#comment-41990 Dear Kris, thank you for the comment. Yes, I've tried to keep the discussion civil, knowing that people will have strong opinions on this (and other) matters. What I do find almost humorously ironic is that when it comes to my own reproductive life, I've taken the exact opposite course as Mrs. Duggar (I've chosen only to have one biological child; though I'm theoretically open to adoption in future, I know realistically the chances of being able to do are fairly remote). But I still feel I can defend other people's choices even if they differ radically from mine. I totally agree that people who feel strongly about certain issues can be scary. For example, I was participating in a discussion about abortion on another forum. My position was that abortion should be legal in the first three months of pregnancy, but that abortion beyond that point without a medical reason is questionable both from a legal and moral point of view. Well, I and other people, also pro-choice, who voiced similar concerns were basically shouted down by the moderator for being instruments of the pro-life movement. Sometimes therefore even self-styled liberal movements can be as intolerant and close-minded as the people they claim to hate. Dear Kris, thank you for the comment. Yes, I’ve tried to keep the discussion civil, knowing that people will have strong opinions on this (and other) matters. What I do find almost humorously ironic is that when it comes to my own reproductive life, I’ve taken the exact opposite course as Mrs. Duggar (I’ve chosen only to have one biological child; though I’m theoretically open to adoption in future, I know realistically the chances of being able to do are fairly remote). But I still feel I can defend other people’s choices even if they differ radically from mine.

I totally agree that people who feel strongly about certain issues can be scary. For example, I was participating in a discussion about abortion on another forum. My position was that abortion should be legal in the first three months of pregnancy, but that abortion beyond that point without a medical reason is questionable both from a legal and moral point of view. Well, I and other people, also pro-choice, who voiced similar concerns were basically shouted down by the moderator for being instruments of the pro-life movement. Sometimes therefore even self-styled liberal movements can be as intolerant and close-minded as the people they claim to hate.

]]> By: Kris http://www.cynicsunlimited.com/2008/06/15/the-duggars-and-the-%e2%80%9cfull-quiver%e2%80%9d-movement/comment-page-4/#comment-41989 Kris Mon, 01 Feb 2010 02:10:55 +0000 http://www.cynicsunlimited.com/?p=454#comment-41989 Interesting article, even more fascinating discussion. While it sometimes deteriorates into accusations and borders on name calling, the author has done a good job of participating in the discussion after posting the article. By moderating the discussion, it has been kept civil for the most part. What I personally find most interesting about the discussion is something that I have seen time and time again in discussions of this type: for the most part, people who believe very strongly typically cannot be swayed by the arguments of another person, who may feel equally as strongly but from the other end of the spectrum. In general, people who feel <i>that</i> strongly about things scare me a bit… Interesting article, even more fascinating discussion. While it sometimes deteriorates into accusations and borders on name calling, the author has done a good job of participating in the discussion after posting the article. By moderating the discussion, it has been kept civil for the most part.

What I personally find most interesting about the discussion is something that I have seen time and time again in discussions of this type: for the most part, people who believe very strongly typically cannot be swayed by the arguments of another person, who may feel equally as strongly but from the other end of the spectrum.

In general, people who feel that strongly about things scare me a bit…

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